What Happened To Our Villains?

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Every hero needs a good villain. Movie villains used to be awesome, but now they kind of suck. Join me as I explain why.

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    • @Criminals rule the world now! Funny to find out about his name in the english version this way. I watched the same movie like 12 years ago and in German he was just called _" Lord Helmet'ly "_ to translate it as close as possible. Funny. How a name is so relatable without having it ever heard or read in english. ^_^

      Isekai NPCIsekai NPC3 napja
    • Darth helmet is a better villain than most of the garbage nowadays.

      Criminals rule the world now!Criminals rule the world now!4 napja
    • 4:13 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh Drinker - read the Darth Vader Comic Series. The whole "Darth Vader" personality is basically just an Anakin Skywalker being out of control and just wanting to die or destroy everything in front of him. With his service as an excuse. His service to Palpatine and only him only, not even to the Empire itself.

      Isekai NPCIsekai NPC4 napja
    • china happened to our villains.

    • What do you mean goth Vader is great

      matthew cherringtonmatthew cherrington8 napja
  • Get your balls back!

    docfatedocfate30 perccel
  • Gotta be honest faora kicking supermans ass was amazing

    Yoru LaneyYoru Laney4 órája
  • I liked Kylo Ren. He was trying to be Anakin/Vader but knew he wasn't up to par. Yet it disgusts me how a fking Jane Doe living in the fking desert beats him out of nowhere, using the force without even knowing what the fk that is. Yeah, strong whaman.

    Gavriluta VladGavriluta Vlad5 órája
  • THANK YOU, for this eye-opening explanation on why I significantly enjoy Hollywood movies so much less these last 10 years. The over-empowered female protagonist VS the weak male antagonist is just NOT satisfying to watch AT ALL. Winning from a weak villain makes the hero weak as well. Sure, I enjoy watching a woman kick ass, but it doesn't have to be at the expense of the male antagonist. Alien, Kill Bill, GOT and The Walking dead all had believable female pro/antagonists who didn't rely on their villains being weak to be great characters. But from how things are these days, I actually want the male villain to win. And this is coming from a WOMAN!

    Nutty dishwasherNutty dishwasher8 órája
  • Ugh, this is why I largely stick to anime these days. They don't care about people's feelings, they only care about telling a story.

    Steven DoolittleSteven Doolittle12 órája
  • The punisher TV show. The punisher beats the shit out of 3 women in a bathroom haha that's the only recent one I can think of. But then it got cancelled.

    brett Smithbrett Smith14 órája
  • I just feel like the entire film industry went to shit. From the 1930s to the 2000s I can name so many great movies from each year and decade. But the 2010s my god their isn't many and even the 2000s is iffy. The writing has just gotten lazy the directors have gotten lazy I blame marvel to be honest. Their movies are crap and sell well so every other film trys to be the same crap

    brett Smithbrett Smith14 órája
  • I didn't watch Birds of Prey, but no way they did my guy Black Mask Dirty like that wtf, why does he look like a rip off of scarface.

    HirscHHirscH19 órája
  • The problem with this video is that you only provide a few examples from popular, notably bad/divisive films: Capt. Marvel, WW84, Star Wars Prequels. There are more movies out there then Disney films and DC. And there are many more movies that have great villains. And you only list a small number of recent examples from similar works

    JayfireJayfire20 órája
  • I couldn't understand how they wanted us to look at the mother in King of Monsters sympathetically after she unleashed Ghidorah on the world. She was responsible for millions of deaths and because she decides to save her own daughter the movie fn redeems her?!? This video really put that into context now.

    K KhanK KhanNapja
  • It's odd that we are judged for disliking these characters because of their gender when it's the writers that clearly have an issue with gender.

    ssj4broly !!ssj4broly !!Napja
  • Well said, totally agree.

    Peking APeking ANapja
  • Melkor. Best villain ever created.

  • Not only is it unfair for females to win all of their fights in movies(10:48-til end of video) they've been having "G-spots" and "orgasms" since the 1980's😒 Once we as dominant males get women back into kitchens barefoot and pregnant over a hot stove things will get back to normal🥳: this comment is made in jest, please "DO NOT" take it seriously.

  • This is the reason I haven't been to a theatre in months.

    Theodore BennettTheodore BennettNapja
  • Alan Rickman as the sherriff of Nottingham was one the best villains ever

    Peter PandemicPeter PandemicNapja
  • I know Star Wars villains were raped repeatedly by Disney executives in the last 5 years.

    wargamesmasterwargamesmaster2 napja
  • star wars, the empire strikes back and the return of the jedi still gives me goosebumps.

    Self-LawSelf-Law2 napja
  • We just elected the villains.

    A CA C2 napja
  • Modern cinematic male villains are not allowed to be threatening... and modern female villains have to be misunderstood victims of male wrong doing.

    paul hugopaul hugo2 napja
  • I think it's because movie writers are trying to be more like fandom canon. Actual villains vs there fanon counterparts are exactly like old villains vs modern day villains. Funny, weak, secretly whiny because haha funny are jokes a fandom would make.

    Josh GrobanJosh Groban3 napja
  • Star wars was killed for me when the perky smart precocious Anakin became Vader... as an emo whiner teen that was controlled to evil ends...? and Kylo followed THAT path. Disney as Corp sucks since 80s. Frozen was last one I could tolerate to watch in their animated offerings. Cute, mediocre with some feminism pills slipped in my popcorn

    Deejay GarimiDeejay Garimi3 napja
  • I always get mad when a male hero doesn´t want to fight with a female villain even if she is similar or even superior in power. The only way they can defeat her is: a) Another female step up and fight, usually the hero's love interest. No matter if she is going to get heavily beaten up by the villain. Probably will get some help from the hero. [Scoth Pilgrim and Kick Ass 2 as examples] b) The villain turns out to be a transgender woman [Ace Ventura Pet detective]. LET MALE HEROES FIGHT FEMALE VILLAINS FFS! LET THEM WIN AFTER STRUGGLING! I think the only male hero who has no problem with that is Batman.

    Lex60Lex603 napja
  • I always found that they tried to make the new Star Wars films comedies.

    Harold MerewetherHarold Merewether3 napja
  • I agree with most things but I think it's probably more likely to get a good villain in a movie with multiple heroes, as it is not just a man beating up a woman it is a man beating up 5 people y'know, look at infinity war, thanos was a very imposing threat and he had to take on both men and women so no one complained, to them it was no longer "man beat women=sexism" it was now "man beat everyone=equity"

    JSC PlayzJSC Playz3 napja
  • Great video couldn't agree more :)

    Lacey BlueLacey Blue3 napja
  • Brie Larson is just awful.

    Kordell SwofferKordell Swoffer3 napja
  • squadW

    Tommy TranTommy Tran3 napja
  • good take. i’ll use some of this in my personal writing and see if i can make a difference. writing villians is realllly hard.

    octopuscollectiveoctopuscollective3 napja
  • I think black masks character in birds of prey was intentionally created like that because famous rich boy who has a large criminal empire is being threatened by new group of criminals

    Darth SandiestDarth Sandiest3 napja
  • I wrote a hate comment about how weak and boring disneys modern villians are. They hated me 😆 soooo mutch. Buuuuut i always loved the villians. The old ones. Sooooo, i decided to be The Villian xDDD

    Victorian RabbitVictorian Rabbit3 napja
  • Kylo ren had so much potential. Like give him a good backstory and power, he would have been iconic..

    Dominic HjorthDominic Hjorth3 napja
  • He had to take his helmet off so we could see he was the ultimate bad guy...a CIS white male!!!

    Criminals rule the world now!Criminals rule the world now!4 napja
  • Yeah everything you said makes sense, you should see apollo and starbuck beat the fuck out of each other in battlestar galactica thats equality, watched ragnarok again the other day and thought how can thor nearly beat thanos but not hela and how can hela be able to put up a fight surter there wasn’t even a battle was just woosh and a bang

    Johnny RegularhandJohnny Regularhand4 napja
  • Alfter the first 38 seconds I was laughing out loud

    willembakker23willembakker234 napja
  • John Wick Chapter 1

    FascinatingFlounderFascinatingFlounder4 napja
  • Chad Vader vs Virgin Ren

    cluckin bellcluckin bell4 napja
  • I actually rooted for Kylo throughout the Disney movies.

    Mike FrostMike Frost4 napja
  • Woke times and female heros..at home stops till your girl or wife have to carry 50 kg bag from car to garage..

    A AA A4 napja
  • Villains are getting castrated, especially when the plot is equivalent of an snl skit..

    SapphoSappho4 napja
  • Not sure I'd agree the gendering aspect is the only cause of this, but definitely a factor. Still, I think another is just the trend of "subversion" which itself has become kinda shriveled up. Lots of people went into phases of the anti-hero, and now the subversion of elements, where they all want to do something "different" or "suprising" without the heavier thought developed into it. That, and the "realism" of a villain being someone spoiled and whiny. In the end though, it doesn't work right for the reasoned named. In the majority of stories, you need some serious hostile struggle and obstacle to overcome. The villain doesn't have to be the only way to do this, but it sure is a massive force to help the process if that's your kind of story. Even flawed villains can do this so well, especially going the route of sharing flaws with the protagonist and yet showing a side that uses it differently, and how the hero will triumph over it with their more virtuous or learned method after all the struggles to develop away from becoming a mirror villain. ... or they just take the lazy way of making weak whiny villains with a more powerful proxy, that in the end amounts to badly written heroes and boring villains. I think Kylo Ren was actually pretty awesome for his worth. The point was certainly to deflect and break down the Vader tropes, and I think they actually did pull off the subversion with him well enough to be entertaining. In fact, it was a godsend for the initial movie, because he was basically the only component that wasn't a repackaged formula of fanservice. but the problem was everyone one else. Everyone! The natural conclusion if Ren was so stupid, petty, and lacking, was that others would be picking up the slack for him, even manipulating him like the tool he is, and giving you a real villain to fear from the shadows. Except no, they didn't do that, they continued to prove this force of evil was somehow maintained by miscostumed clowns. Phasma was a Boba Fett shadow that showed up to look cool and embarrass itself, I don't even care if I mispell snoke because he was such a sequel bait pile of waste, and less can even be said of others. Each movie couldn't figure out who the true villain was, so they had to revive the literal dead zombie form to ruin a classic true villain of old. They didn't want to do a cool villain, they kept wanting to subvert their propped villains, the coolest looking female stormtrooper included.

    jgunner280jgunner2804 napja
  • I thought the EXACT same thing while watching Force Awakens in theaters.

    Adny AngrandAdny Angrand4 napja
  • I love how you never miss a chance to shit on Brie Larson. Don’t ever change, Drinker, don’t ever change.

    Joey KonyhaJoey Konyha4 napja
  • meh in the man of steel clip supes was getting double teamed but i see your point

    Dragon HelivarDragon Helivar4 napja
  • In the defense of Kilo Ren. He is supposed to be the a pale comparison to vader

    original characteroriginal character4 napja
  • want proper villain??? watch anime and read manga

    kemark cooperkemark cooper4 napja
  • Someone should make a villain that is psychopath: because them he would be bad just to be

    Joao GabrielJoao Gabriel5 napja
  • Your three examples have one thing in common; they're going against strong wahmen who has to win because wahmen rule and men drool

    Mirnum007Mirnum0075 napja
  • Surprise twist = Kylo Ren was actualy the protagonist. Why else would he be the only one with somewhat of a character ark ? It surely isn't bad writing from a company as big as disney.

    Ionut CristianIonut Cristian5 napja
  • Goddammit. You're absolutely right.

    WoodmanFeatherhighWoodmanFeatherhigh5 napja
  • In case you don't have time for this video, let me sum it up. "I only like villains with the specific traits and experiences of the villains from movies of my particular youth who had stereotypically male traits such as dominance and who commanded respect. Stories that have their own villains rather than facsimiles of Star Wars archetypes are bad and they make me angry, regardless of the genres of those stories. For example, the comedic aspects of the comedy villains from the comedic series of Charlie's Angels films detracts from these comedy movies because comedically they don't command respect like mysterious Darth Vader, from Star Wars, a space opera in which he maintains control of his emotions at all times. Villains who display anger or lose control of their emotions are failures because for unexplained reasons, any villain who is not like DARTH Vader is a result of poor writing and more importantly, this indicates that the inclusion of women as heroes and appeasement of SJWs is clearly responsible for this general emasculation of the villain in modern movies." You're welcome. I wholeheartedly agree that the girl power trope which prevents films from showing women ever defeated by men reduces the tension of the story since we already know who will always win in mixed gender conflicts, but dude, this is just the bounce back from hundreds - at least - of years which showed women as nothing more than props. Do you really not have a larger perspective than the last 40 years or so? If you're annoyed at this overused trope, imagine how many women must have felt with the incessant tropes throughout our culture that have portrayed women as lesser than men in pretty much every important relevant way, relevance also being defined by the men. We are all going to get tired of the overused girl-power-uber-alles trope, and things will find a new equilibrium. This is the life cycle of any trope. And I'm sure it won't take the thousands of years it took for the pendulum to swing away from the male-power-is-a-given tropes that have existed at least in Western media since - well - the beginning of media. Let the women have a decade or two. I'm sorry you happen to live at the time of this readjustment and not 100 years before or after this moment of realignment since it seems to bother you so much, but those are the breaks. Buck up and stop being a puss in boots who lost his boots about it.

    Lee WatersLee Waters5 napja
  • why is it ive been so brainwashed ive never noticed this before being told

    Michael LazarouMichael Lazarou5 napja
  • Great stuff keep up the good work

    Jeff RichardsJeff Richards5 napja
  • Someone's not watching Attack on Titan...

    Tyrion LannisterTyrion Lannister5 napja
  • There was better villains in G.I.JOE (the 1984 cartoon)

    James EugeneJames Eugene5 napja
  • Snoke looked like a rotting peanut.

    The SenateThe Senate5 napja
  • 1:04 I saw what you did there !

    Steve KillgoreSteve Killgore5 napja
  • Imagine a remake of die hard with hans gruber's hostage complaining for gluten free food and gender fluid toilet, and about the fact that the terrorist crew is not diverse enough.

    Jerome BoutJerome Bout5 napja
  • But doesn’t sarah connor defeat the terminator? There isn’t any sort of pandering towards the female audience there. As for the Star Wars movies, I agree that Kylo is a problematic villain but a fun character. The problem with the new star wars movies is that they lack any strong central villain, like you mentioned. But looking at a strong, modern villain, I think Roman Sionis is solid. He is childish and is unhinged, but it manifests in acts of violence. He intimidates the people around him, and makes the world a worse off place to be. His power lies in his ability to manipulate and intimidate with a weak psyche. He’s the playground bully turned up to 11. But I think you have a point that some villains are worse than others currently, with writers unsure of how to handle previously established characters and entities, especially Disney.

    Tanuki GTanuki G5 napja
  • Ha ha I love your videos & moonshine is aviation fuel!

    Simon MatthewsSimon Matthews5 napja
  • This man needs more subscribers.

    #BatWho Laughs#BatWho Laughs5 napja
  • The solution is equal rights . . . and lefts.

    Crozan EgovultCrozan Egovult6 napja
  • What happened to our villains? They were hired by Disney and took over the narrative to destroy entertainment as we know it...

    Dave of YorkshireDave of Yorkshire6 napja
  • yeah thats the worst booze ever

    Jason JeffJason Jeff6 napja
  • The best villians I’ve seen are General Grevious 2003 version, Raggyo Kiriuyin from Kill la kill, Tywin lannister GOT DIO from Jojo bizzare adventures

    A. InaiA. Inai6 napja
  • Well I believe things are turning around back to the so called normal again, could be very wrong though

    Chianty BChianty B6 napja
  • Dr. Claw was more intimidating then these villians.

    PixelsRnautDedPixelsRnautDed6 napja
  • Made me think of GI Jane with Viggo and Demi

    Matthew HortonMatthew Horton6 napja
  • Kylo Ren could have been a great villainous anti-hero if they actually honored the character traits they gave him within the plot and if there were an actual villain to contrast him with and if there was an actual plot that made any sense or if the films weren't generally trash.

    Caer IbormeithCaer Ibormeith6 napja
  • You have to downplay men for women to be lead characters...they are horrible action heroes...they can only succeed in a fantasy scenario...weak men are a hollywood fantasy...unfortunately, life imitates art.

    royal001fulroyal001ful6 napja
  • Disney villains must not scare children...

    doc bladedoc blade6 napja
  • For 10:54 John Wick vs Ares.

    Attila DukaiAttila Dukai6 napja
  • Adam Driver is so good as Kylo Ren. Even if he wasn't a villain villain. He acted so good. He looks more like the protagonist tbh

    Euphemia GnashEuphemia Gnash7 napja
  • And for that, you earned my subscription!

    Zak VanDoorneZak VanDoorne7 napja
  • china happened to our villains.

  • When you said they make you wonder who the real villain is, the footage should be of Johnny Lawrence.

    Jason CunninghamJason Cunningham7 napja
  • Cant wait for when the Drinker takes on the massive challenge of rewriting the Star Wars sequels so theyre actually good

    Max DeRocheMax DeRoche7 napja
  • Facts!!!!!👍🏿👍🏿

    Chris SykesChris Sykes7 napja
  • Imagine a world were people shout equality but make one sex unequally win 🤣

    Darryl KempDarryl Kemp7 napja
  • Faaaaaarken hell.. I had to pause the video for a good 5 minutes after the slaughter of bree larson a minute in. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🥳

    Sam BlackSam Black7 napja
  • It's simple, Disney happened...

    Radoslav PuhalovicRadoslav Puhalovic7 napja
  • Gotta disagree on Thor Ragnarok, ofcourse they didn’t quote the source material word for word but in the comics (minus a few occasions) Thor couldn’t hang with Hela...like not even close. I think that’s the only example I see really grasping at straws

    Joe BamaJoe Bama7 napja
  • I have completely erased the sequel trilogy from my mind.. Never existed. Star Wars ends with The Return of the Jedi..

    A AA A7 napja
    • Me too. Sad, Kilo Ren had so much potential to be a great villain. The scene the drinker points out where Po is sassing him...should have been an immediate force choke or some new just as scary ability. I remember as a kid when I first watched SW, Vader was as scary to me as Jason from Friday the 13th or any other horror movie villain.

      Jack BitsJack Bits7 napja
  • Just watched 'i care a lot' and immediately reminded me of this video

    Derek ChengDerek Cheng7 napja
  • These is what women fight all along equality... And now a transgender women is dominating women sports... Haist...

    Marvin LeeMarvin Lee7 napja
  • Modern 'female protagonists' are less original and more pathetic than Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Ravenway. As a woman who has always looked up to strong female characters, I must say that they've really run dry. STOP PANDERING PLEASE!!!!! I grew up with Ripley, and Sarah Connor, Ziva David, Hermione, even the Teen Titans! They all make Rey 'Skywalker' look pathetic. Don't get me STARTED on Captain Karen! Stop treating women as *sensitive precious wittle babies* that can't actually do anything unless you make them all powerful! They prech about how they're making women 'strong and brave!' and yet look what they did to Mulan! Cheers, mate!!

  • So true Mr Drinker!

    Phil CPhil C8 napja
  • One of my favorite vilans: Simcoe from Turn.

    Ola NordmannOla Nordmann8 napja
  • I thought "Gus Fring" was an awesome villain in "Breaking Bad" - the kind of guy you actually wanted to win.

    stretch654stretch6548 napja
  • Heros usually follow a specific archetype, it has always been that way. Villians used to be unbridled and undefined, not anymore.

    fahsfahs8 napja
  • Could have a female hero go against a female antagonist. There, i solved the idiot rage problem. You're welcome! :D

    madman123456madman1234568 napja
  • That’s kinda why, after walking out of the theatre from force awakens, that Rey was gonna fall and Kylo would become the primary protagonist. Cuz they established that he kinda sucks at being villain and that Rey is stronger. Every flaw you pointed out about kylo...it seemed too obvious to be anything but deliberate...but I guess not.

    bonzwah1bonzwah19 napja
  • 0:09 So the same age then?

    Philip CogginsPhilip Coggins9 napja
  • The Major in Hellsing Ultimate is the absolute best villain in Anime, especially in the English dub version.

    Minh Hoàng TrầnMinh Hoàng Trần9 napja
  • They kill the woman pretty fairly in the John Wick movies...granted semi proving your point by over establishing the bonafides before having the protagonist kill them to elevate his character.

    Iron ReedIron Reed9 napja
  • Kylo Renn had the misfortune of being pitted against Mary Sue Skywalker-...eeerrrrrrr....Palpatine.

    Joey KonyhaJoey Konyha9 napja
  • Hollywood's formula is pretty simple. White males are only allowed to be shown as subservient, cowardly, jealous, underhanded losers. Black males are allowed to be strong, confident, sympathetic alpha males and possible love interest for White females, but they are very rarely used to portray villains.

    Nekrone SchwartzNekrone Schwartz9 napja
  • Man can't beat woman. Woman can beat man. yeah that sounds equal.

    Medium ChainMedium Chain9 napja
  • it's only coincidence that all of the movie's with weak male villains have strong independent women that are supposed to be the hero, they don't pose any threat because if they do then the sjw's will scream how the female characters were oppressed ...like that matters ... the bigger the monster the bigger the payoff when it falls ... but no if the villain is a man he can only be weak, restrain himself and be dumb, let's be honest if any male bad guy if he lands a punch on a female she should fall and should find other ways to bring them down also it shouldn't matter if a villain man strikes down a female hero they are the villain they are not supposed to be moral, they should stop making all of these movies like the villains are complex being tortured and whatever because most of them leave a lot to be desired and most don't even make sense, even as much as i like marvel's infinity war and endgame Thanos's goal to kill half of the universe so they don't consume all of the resources makes no god damn sense, for technologically advanced beings it wouldn't be that hard to rebuild and in less than 10 generations the population probably would bounce back and in end game he goes full bad guy and wants to remake the universe the way he wants it too ... honestly i would have preferred the original story where he does it to impress Death but w/e.... Villains should be villains they should not be affected by morality and especially not sjw morality

    Ðevil ShiroÐevil Shiro10 napja