2021 Toyota Supra meets the BMW M2 CS: the Mk4's real successor | Jason Cammisa on the Icons Ep. 01

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What makes a Supra, a Supra? Our veteran automotive journalist Jason Cammisa asks that very question as he pits the updated Mk5 A90 Supra against its mechanical twin, the BMW Z4 M40i as well as the Mk5's predecessor, the A80 Mk4 Supra Turbo.
Cammisa also heads to Toyota's CALTY Design Research Center to visit the magnificent FT-1 concept car that gave life to the Supra - where he chats with Kevin Hunter, its designer, about the challenges in grafting the FT-1's design language onto the Z4's hard points.
The surprise star of the video is the 2021 BMW M2 CS. On paper, it would seem to have nothing to do with the Supra, but in fact, there's an argument to be made that it's an even better Supra than the Supra itself.
Follow Jason Cammisa on Instagram at @jasoncammisa
0:00 Introducing Supra and M2 CS
2:08 2021 Supra vs Mk4 Supra Turbo Drag Race
2:50 2021 Supra Review Part 1
3:18 Supra vs M2 CS chase
4:38 Supra vs M2 CS on paper
5:28 BMW M2 CS Review
6:53 BMW Sports Cars
7:19 BMW Z4 M40i Review
8:54 Toyota Supra and FT-1 Design History
9:49 What is a "hardpoint?"
10:45 Shrinking FT-1 onto Z4's hardpoints
11:26 Supra horn vs Z4 horn
11:56 2021 Supra vs BMW Z4 M40i drag race
12:49 2021 Supra Review Part 2
14:06 History of Toyota Supra
15:56 The Mk4 Supra Turbo
18:12 Mk4 Sales Failure
18:50 The Hydrogen Fuel Cell trade
19:53 Conclusion
21:26 Credits

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  • The Supra is 100 times sexier though.

  • What was the first car that beat the new Supra?

    • The one with TOYO TYRES ON IT

  • this video deserves more views

    Darren OngDarren Ong7 órája
  • Old man step aside if you cant drive a BMW WOT

    Forexmakeit Or break itForexmakeit Or break it12 órája
  • Hmmm 797 plate number just like mine.

  • Dodge would, dodge would put it in production…

    Avg VetAvg VetNapja
  • This show is so well made that it's hard to believe it's on youtube and not only on tv. This is as good as old top gear. Good work!

  • I don't understand. He said chop it in half.. The M2 is longer by like 3 inches though... The Supra is a hatch back... and 5 inches lower hood.. Apples and oranges... Mind you... I do like the m2 more.

    Ryshask -Ryshask -Napja
  • Man.... If only Toyota used the F1 body with the V10 engine from the Lexus LFA and drive train... OH BOY! That would be AMAZING! Also the LFA has the best exhaust note too!

    John MooreJohn MooreNapja

    Eric karlongEric karlongNapja
  • Hahahah BMW vs BMW

    Sojul of EarthSojul of EarthNapja
  • This is the new Top Gear we wanted but didn’t deserve

  • How about the M coupes (z3 and z4)? Aren’t those pretty decent bmw sports cars?

    Jonathan AngelJonathan Angel2 napja
  • It looks soo small than old supra 😒😒

    Nero DMCNero DMC2 napja
  • great video. high quality.

    Hamid RanjbarHamid Ranjbar2 napja
  • Thank you Sir for this amazing episode. I have enjoyed every minute of it

    Mesheezy 2020Mesheezy 20202 napja
  • Oh gawd s2000 seats in the Mk4.. :(

    REVlogueREVlogue2 napja
  • 10/10 Awesome filming, great writing. You got me hooked.

    Burl PettibonBurl Pettibon2 napja
  • Just, Bravo!!!

    DesmobrainDesmobrain2 napja
  • I'm interested in if Toyota comes out with a fully internal sports car in the coming years. Now THAT...would be super.

    Part of the GamePart of the Game3 napja
    • Hopefully if it happens you buy it to show support in projects like that because no one really does.

      Tj TuckerTj Tucker2 napja
  • The cinematic intro 🔥

    Karma SonuKarma Sonu3 napja
  • Гавно машина Рекламу талкают её в Японии мало кто берёт

    Yev YevYev Yev3 napja
  • subscribed

    iam zxenxiiam zxenxi3 napja
  • What makes Supra a Supra? Nothing its a BMW.

    Alexei PopusoiAlexei Popusoi3 napja
  • They never made 3jz😢

    Ace FixtureAce Fixture3 napja
  • Nissan GTR is the mark IV replacement.

    Sean RSean R3 napja
  • Man, you should be doing top gear

    Javigar13Javigar133 napja
  • dear top gear usa....

    Ricky RisnandarRicky Risnandar3 napja
  • This is an absolute unit of a production. My favorite part was hearing that Mk4 unleash absolute wrath.

    Rolando GonzalezRolando Gonzalez4 napja
  • Jason Cammisa is why I subscribed to this channel, just love the detailed backstories given in his reviews 👍🏽

    MrManwenMrManwen4 napja
  • ill take the mk5 tbh

    kwkw4 napja
  • You’re a genius J.

    solarc millansolarc millan4 napja
  • Genuinely impressed by the intro production quality. Thats a really super high-end video, and really amazing video. Thank you for that, what an amazing channel!

    luan maialuan maia4 napja
  • Il bet you one thing in 20 years starting from now im gonna désigne you a good supra just you wait Im saying that not nowing only a little percent about toyotas styling ,3d modeling , plan making ,etc so dont hate pls.

    hello im a canadien that lives in canada #canadahello im a canadien that lives in canada #canada4 napja
  • Is it me or everyone sees 1 supra n 2 bimmers??

    Dan 747Dan 7474 napja
  • Nice video of a supra and two BMW's

    Ben Hills 22Ben Hills 224 napja
  • The Yaris isn't a Mazda in the rest of the world only in the US market. Look at the GR Yaris. Best rally derived hot hatch in years but sadly it's not sold in America.

    interestinginteresting4 napja
  • I can't take my eyes off the screen over this video. Fcuk yeah this one is good

    titan81titan815 napja
  • What a video,what a great host🔥

    AD55AD555 napja
  • legendary video

    Jaelen C.Jaelen C.6 napja
  • Jason is the best entertaining car reviewer....period....and the video editing was the best!

    Glenn PieschkeGlenn Pieschke6 napja
  • Is this guy Adam Sandler’s brother???

    LightningVolt127LightningVolt1276 napja
    • Maybe

      HagertyHagerty6 napja
  • Is this willow springs ??

    gary allen iigary allen ii6 napja
  • Wow, awesome fun!!!!

    Amra JemaalaAmra Jemaala6 napja
  • Over a million views. And like 10 of them are mine.

    Zach StokesZach Stokes6 napja
  • Fest and Furious should call you guys up!

    Areeb QureshiAreeb Qureshi6 napja
  • I'l take the SUPRA..m2 will need new tires and is all over the place.

    Gene EdmundsGene Edmunds6 napja
  • "You can actually see 'out' of the M2".....🤣🤣🤣

    Nandu 7Nandu 77 napja
  • Didn't know Jon Cryer was into cars!

    Juha KankkunenJuha Kankkunen7 napja
  • Excellent video

    Boywonderr71Boywonderr717 napja
  • This is how you make a car video..that car wow me

    Bruce LeeBruce Lee7 napja
  • Can't wait to get my supra

    Erik MartinezErik Martinez7 napja
  • The supra looks so good Please give it a M3 Engine and a Manual. I will buy.

    Gregg ZGregg Z8 napja
  • Dear Hagethy, keep up the good work....what an impressive video....Its simple, effective, informative and really fun to watch....

    Azmir AriffinAzmir Ariffin8 napja
  • they killed ft1 supra what a beatiful design they did the biggest mistake associating with BMW....HOW COULD THEY DO THAT TOYOTA WHY

    Meme187 ridvanMeme187 ridvan8 napja
    • They had already agreed to work with BMW well before the concept came to be. From there on they've been working together for awhile now and even a few toyos other than the mk5 are BMW powered.

      Carboy Dorifuto partyCarboy Dorifuto party8 napja
  • so compare that MK5 supra to an MK4 that doesn't have $20k of daddy's credit card invested in it.

    JHart ModelworksJHart Modelworks8 napja
  • BMW Vs BMW

    KhairulKhairul8 napja
  • 85k for a little BMW😳 And just 12 payments into it, your at the dealer for an oil leak!😆

    80sriceman80sriceman8 napja
  • If toyota sold each supra for the cost of the m2 cs, which is 20k+ more than the mk5, then they probably would've engineered it themselves. But they dont have the engineers to make sports cars, nor the straight 6, nor a platform. So likely would've been near 100k. Then nobody would've driven it and journalists would say its ok but too expensive. Plus, thanks to toyota's engineering on the b58, people are already seeing relatively big gains with little mods, just like the 2jz. thats a successor right there

    JayJay8 napja
  • Haven’t watched a full 22 minute video from start to finish in a while. Keep up the stellar work.

    Andrew MosleyAndrew Mosley8 napja
  • Oh man, I am a huge fan of the Supras, and the Z4 has been my all time favourite roadster, and that M2 Competition is literally my favourite car right now and the one that I wanna own, and this video literally brought me to tears seeing all three (or four) of them together going head to head against each other in such a beautiful presentation. Only made my love for the M2 even stronger! ♥️

    McR07McR078 napja
  • Should bought a Supra in the late 90’s. Too bad I was a broke college student and could barely afford my Acura Integra!!!

    WHR17WHR178 napja
  • M2 all day

    K SlayK Slay9 napja
  • Where's the toyota? I see 2 bmws.

    manboob5000manboob50009 napja
  • The real supra is insanely beautiful

    star foxstar fox9 napja
  • lol @ auto door lock at 2:27

    Tony SantosTony Santos9 napja
  • This is the new flagship for reviewing cars! This is more exciting to watch than most Hollywood movies!

    Winning DesignsWinning Designs9 napja
  • From some of the comments below... Some people are absolutely idiots or Can i say low EQ. This is all about business. Is not who is better and who has a great milestones. If 2 companies or brands wants to collaboration. It means Money.. Only those idiots who loveor spend money on BMW or The other Who Loves Toyota gives such kiddo comments. Both are great companies and i repeat myself again.. They Meant Business. If BMW were to give them the green light for a new A90 Which we call SUPRA

    Jonathan Yap Jun MingJonathan Yap Jun Ming9 napja
  • S2000 seats in a Mk4 😂

    Yo JoeYo Joe9 napja
  • U gained a sub off of this. For a one man show this was amazing. I second the top gear sentiment as well.

    Anthony ChestnutAnthony Chestnut9 napja
  • Jesus. Where the hell are your guys' views? This is TOP TIER stuff! I might even say it's what's actually at the top of automotive content right now.

    Rob VicenteRob Vicente9 napja
  • I never thought I would ever say this ... but I finally found someone that compares to Jeremy Clarkson ... please let this guy host all your shows. What’s his name?

    Richie DJRichie DJ9 napja
  • I wonder if they would've sold more Supras, if they had made it more like the concept without being constrained by the BMW chassis. Sure, it would've been more expensive. But it also would've been more awesome.

    Titanium MechanismTitanium Mechanism9 napja
  • M2 had a lot of shoes to fill.....it filled all of them very well. P.s - its so cool how us car guys listen to these stories like folklore. The legend supra ....... successor of a legend ....its son the M2🤪

    dhruv dagardhruv dagar10 napja
  • The MK4s real successor... That’s so unsatisfying. The M2 is way better than the shitty Supra

    R E D I A HR E D I A H10 napja
  • That FT1 concept may be the sexiest car I've ever seen in my life

    Nathan ChaseNathan Chase10 napja
  • Ummmm what?! Don't you guys mean BMW versus BMW look I have to say it ok Supra was all internal parts and external parts. I just want to understand why the CEO of Toyota allowed this to happen? Toyota is a billion dollar industry I just don't understand why they couldn't come up with their phone newer design of the Supra. I mean I'm no business person but I know Toyota could have done it they could have made it way better Toyota was always ahead of its curve so I don't know what the hell's going on?!

    Mark KookieMark Kookie10 napja
    • It happened because they use statistics to sell cars. They knew they could save more money collaborating with BMW then if they built it in house. Main factor is very little people would buy it. More proof that it would fail then it would’ve succeeded at a certain price range.

      Tj TuckerTj Tucker8 napja
  • It's funny, if Toyota had offered a manual, I'd probably have one. I don't care that its a BMW underneath, it looks better than the BMW. But they didn't offer one. Hello 2022 Nissan Z....

    Scott DScott D10 napja
  • This 2021 Toyota Supra is the most ugly car that Toyota ever made in the whole history. I will buy a car like this one even with the best engine. I rather to own the 90's Supra 1000 times instead of the new one.

    Clinton SnowClinton Snow10 napja
  • Why couldn’t Toyota use the Lexus RC with a twin turbo V6 supplied by Toyota?

    J TJ T11 napja
    • No point in doing that when the RC is already expensive as is and doing that wouldn't help so there'd be no point plua the fact that it's too heavy and the mk5a competition will just kill it like the RCF's competition kills it anyway.

      Carboy Dorifuto partyCarboy Dorifuto party8 napja
    • You would literally have the RCF and no one buys it. Lmao

      Tj TuckerTj Tucker8 napja
  • The new Supra is not a Supra it’s a 2000GT.

    J TJ T11 napja
    • 2000GT is more legendary then the Supra.

      Tj TuckerTj Tucker8 napja
  • dude is comparing stock cars to a heavy modded mk4 supra. put a garrets turbo in that m2 cs and it might be more interesting

    Faizan KhanFaizan Khan12 napja
  • Nice!

    Next AdventureNext Adventure12 napja
  • Broo!! The Cinematography of this!

    Saud QureshiSaud Qureshi12 napja
  • Looks like S2000 seats in the MK4

    Emmanuel RuizEmmanuel Ruiz13 napja
  • Brilliant editing!

    Dayne FilippaDayne Filippa13 napja
  • Toyota is known for their laughable horn note. They had to keep BMW's

    I JI J13 napja
  • When driving Jason reminds me to Ryan Reynolds and Affleck fusion 😆 until he gets out of the car

    freak227zfreak227z13 napja
  • Omg what a great great video guys and Mazda come on let’s get that new Rotary out the world 🌎 is waiting on y’all

    Ramon DiazRamon Diaz13 napja
  • For 80k ur better off getting a gt350

    its Papaits Papa13 napja
  • Why does the b58 sound leagues better than the s55....

    BrightsydeBillBrightsydeBill13 napja
    • Its because of the exhaust set up. There are ways to make the S55 sound better.

      Carboy Dorifuto partyCarboy Dorifuto party13 napja
  • Ben Affleck, Batman and car show host.

    Bojan KecaBojan Keca13 napja
  • Z4 ruined the look.

    Jack SasquatchJack Sasquatch13 napja
  • Can we get the "J-turn" blooper reel, please! 😅

    Thabang NtladiThabang Ntladi14 napja
  • Jason cammisa is the best💯

    PrincePrince14 napja
  • I never knew the day would come when Ben Affleck would sell me an M2 ...

    Jonathan JeffersonJonathan Jefferson14 napja
  • This is a crazy good video!

    Singer GoodSinger Good14 napja
  • Cammisa is brilliant as always. I love how slick that opening shot was with him driving backward and narrating.

    four27060four2706014 napja
  • Please - get this guy co-presenting Top Gear with Chris Harris - and get rid of the two northern idiots Chris has to put up with right now - then we’d have two proper car guys with good presenting skills and have a proper car show again - The Grand Tour is fun but it’s not really a mainstream car show anymore - Top Gear still could be - it needs this guy

    Mark SmartMark Smart14 napja
  • Wow. Eat. Your. Heart. Out. Top. Gear. ... I can't believe how good this show is... and that this is the first time I've seen it... Well done.

    Michael QuickMichael Quick15 napja